Desesperar não ajuda em nada
A campanha realizada pelo Palmeiras é absoltamente decepcionante.
Muitos erros foram cometidos e devem servir de aprendizado para a próxima temporada.
Mas não podem ser utilizados como “muleta” para infernizar a vida da atual direção.
Há de se dar mais uma oportunidade a este grupo de pessoas que, com enorme dificuldade, conseguiram expelir do clube gente que por muitos anos o infelicitou.
É melhor perder um campeonato com gente de bem no comando, do que vencer sob o domínio de usurpadores.
O Corinthians sabe bem o que é isso.
Que a competência seja questionada em 2010.
Nunca a honra.
Somente desta maneira o clube conseguirá ter um alicerce de respeito para que futuras conquistas virem rotina no Parque Antártica.
Dar tempo ao tempo é fundamental.
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Bom dia!
Aproveito para barabenizar a todos os Flamenguistas do mundo pelo seu penta campeonato.
A respeito da diretoria do Palmeiras haveríamos de ter paciência se eles próprios e a imprensa não tivessem apontado o dedo para os outros menosprezando e ignorando o fato que existe sim no futebol brasileiro bons dirigentes e bons trabalhos, que a incompetência administrativa e a gandaia com o dinheiro de parceiros que existe no palmeiras não pode ser generalizada.
Parabéns Belluzzo, Toninho Cecilio, Palaia, Cipullo, Del Nero e Mancha vocês conseguiram humilhar o palmeiras de uma maneira que nenhum de seus rivais jamais imaginou.
Gente de bem? o Beluzzo? Fez parte de um plano (cruzado) que foi o maior engodo ja jogado contra os brasileiros, este ano demonstrou ser do mesmo naipe que qualquer administrador de clube, com declarações e atitudes digna de qualquer dirigente de organizada. E essa sua teoria de melhor perder do que ganhar não ta com nada para nenhum torcedor de clube considerado grande. Guarani, Ponte, Portuguesa, e muitos outros tem torcedores que se conformam com a participação, os dos chamados grandes nunca. Mas aos palmeirense cabe saber que seu presidente pelo menos fez junto aos parceiros um time que cabe o apelido dado de FLANELINHA, pois o ano inteiro guardou lugar para os outros.
Veremos se, pelo menos agora, Muricy será criticado. Este nível de blindagem só vejo em gente como Obama, Lula, etc.
Com a palavra, os “imparciais”.
Paulinho,
A imprensa disse que o Palmeiras tinha um grande time e o palmeirense acreditou, o time é fraco !!!
Diego Souza(O “craque” do time) sempre foi refugo, não é jogador de decisão.
Desse time, só tenho dó do Marcos, que não merecia passar essa humilhação.
E a diretoria ajudou muito para esse fim de campeonato.
Sinceramente, não vi diferença nenhuma na atual administração do palmeiras prás demais administrações dos outros clubes. Um monte de amadores, que na hora do aperto não se controlam e saem dando tiro prá todo lado. Na minha opinião, esse elenco tava rachado.
Exatamente, ele e o Belluzzo erraram até não poder mais e mesmo assim são exaltados. Duro de entender…
É Muricy! É Muricy! É Muricy!
Ontem, precisando ganhar, o treineiro tirou um atacante para colocar um… volante!
O futebol retranqueiro, dos bicões para frente e chuveirinhos a partir da intermediária precisam acabar.
O futuro do treineiro é o mesmo do Leão. Daqui a pouco as pessoas vão abrir os olhos e ele só vai treinar times médios e pequenos.
Paulinho pensa que Muricy é diferenciado, mas o que dizer das contratações que ele solicitava no SP? Em especial a do Eder Sciola. É só investigar.
Marcos e PIERRE se salvam, o resto é ENGANAÇÃO…
O Palmeiras, infelizmente para nós, está MERECENDO ser chacota dos outros esse ano, pois fez por onde. Vão ter de reprogramar, repaginar, repensar TUDO em 2010.
A culpa é da imprensa?
Castigo divino.
O Palmeiras só sairá dessa draga quando deixar de proteger bandidos e entregar o lançador de gás às autoridades.
PARABÉNS A SOCIEDADE ESPORTIVA PALMEIRAS PELA CONQUISTA DA A PRIMEIRA VAGA DA SUL AMERICANA .
SABEMOS O QUANTO FOI DIFICIL LUTAR PELA VAGA , O ESPIRITO DE LUTA EMPREGADO PELO PROFESSOR BELUZZO , AQUELE DE IR PRO PÁU PORQUE O PALMEIRAS É ASSIM MESMO , DEU CERTO !
VÔCES DA IMENSA TORCIDA DO BAIRRO DA LAPA ESTÃO DE PARABÉNS , ESTÃO NO LUGAR QUE MERECEM .
AUGURI A TUTTI PALESTRINI
O Corinthians sabe bem o que isso? kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk Nada a ver Corinthians está na Libertadores, depois do Flamengo foi o time do ano, suas colocações não tem bases factuais.
La vem vc novamente criticar a diretoria e a comissão tecnica do timão e aliviar aquele bando de incompetentes que vivem pro lado do parque antartica.
Lamentavel…
O que sera que o intelectual/merda do Beluzzo vai falar agora,vai botar a culpa em quem? vai falar que a culpa é do Gaciba? ou vai na mancha falar que vai matar alguem.
E assim caminha essa mediocridade como diz o outro jornalista.
O maior problema que o Palmeiras vai enfrentar ano que vem, é o PREJUIZO financeiro que significou ficar de fora da Libertadores.
Os investimentos cairão por parte da parceria, que investirá mais no Cruzeiro que a disputará…então que a nossa torcida não espere grandes contratações para o Paulista e Copa do Brasi, e só se vencer esta última é que poderá pensar em investir mais para o Brasileiro 2010…situação COMPLICADA, a nossa.
O horizonte do Verdão não é nada auspicioso e se vê nuvens negras pairando, mas como dizia aquela música: “Deseperar jamais…” da Simone…tenhamos muita ESPERANÇA apesar de tudo, e vamos renovar nossa fé no Palmeiras…VERDES esperanças para 2010!!!
Quando surge o alvi-verde IMPOTENTE…. Reclamar porque? O time está classificado entre os 5 melhores do país!!!
A Diretoria do Palmeiras fez o certo:
1) Segurou todos os jogadores, mesmo tendo ofertas do exterior.
2) Trouxe o melhor técnico do Brasil (assim era consierado na época da contratação)
3) Contratou um cento-avante a nível de seleção. Na época todos apoiaram.
A culpa foi dos jogadores vagabundos!!!!
Torcedores da Lapa
Neste próximo ano estará reservada grandes emoções para vossa coletividade .
Vôces terão pela frente 2 competições de mata mata , a Copa Do Brasil e a Sul Americana .
Vôces ainda não sabem a emoção que é torcer por um time dirigido pelo tecnico de ponta (de estoque) como o Muricy nesse tipo de competição .
Vôces saberão o porque esse tecnico é apelidado de morre morre , no momento em que se necessita mais de um resultado , como o exemplo de ontem .
Fiquem com o Muricy , procurem defende-lo como fizemos no passado , acreditem em suas lagrimas e seus discursos jogando pra galera .
Acreditem em suas palavras quando o time perde , principalmente quando ele joga a responsabilidade em cima dos jogadores , dizendo que o time não tem liga , e ele nunca tem culpa de nada .
Os resultados da sua saida do São Paulo ai estão para que possa ser visto , ele deixou o time na 16º colocação com sérios riscos de rebaixamento .
Assumiu um time na ponta de cima da tabela pronto para ser o campeão , e conseguiu estragar a equipe como havia feito com o São Paulo .
O que vôces estão passando neste momento não é nada pelo que virá pela frente .
É PURA EMOÇÃO
O sonho do Muricy é entrar em campo com cinco zagueiros e cinco volantes. Só não faz isso porque seria difícil explicar para a torcida depois.
O problema maior foi o Palmeiras preocupar-se mais com o São Paulo do que seu próprio time, deu no que deu, fora da Libertadores que ainda é pior.
Eu tenho orgulho de ter um Presidente como o Belluzzo
É melhor ter um dirigente honesto, honrado e que ama o Clube do que ter um pres. Corrupto e parasita e pinguço e sem moral que só se aproveita do clube, como o do Corinthias (Sanchez) e do São Paulo (Juvenal) que comprou o Barueri e os ingressos da Madonna.
Só fico curioso em saber se o presidente em exercício do Palmeiras, Gilberto Cipullo vai segurar a onda em 2010…só QUERO VER…
Não se pode questionar a honra de Belluzzo? É isso mesmo que eu li?
O cara fala um monte de asneiras, prega a violencia, se alia aos Serdans e Lagartixas da vida e não deve ter sua honra questionada?
Chocante ler um absurdo desses.
Nós tambem temos muito orgulho do Beluzzo .
Torcemos para que ele seja eterno no seu clube .
Forza Beluzzo !
uomo sapiens
Volta Mustafá KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
A bola pune Führerlluzzo!!!!!!!!!!
Knalha sua vergonha só ñ foi maior pq ñ tivemos competência p ganhar o título e tb pq o STJD ñ quis q isso acontecesse
Acho que o Prof.Dr.Belluzzo voltará mais CALEJADO após a “geladeira” imposta a ele, por sua PASSIONALIDADE pelo Palmeiras…acredito que retornará MAIS DIRIGENTE futebolístico.
Falando sério,
realmente ñ é pra qq um ser o 1º classificado p a Sul-Americana. Parabéns!
pensem pelo lado bom… vcs podem s orgulhar d sero primeiro em alguma coisa
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chuuuuuuuuuuuupa Trafficolluzzo
Faltam mais alguns nomes, mas…onde eu assino ?
Outro escroto que adora misturar politica e futebol, deve ser da guarda imperial do GORDO destronado.
Mais um que eu quero assinar.
Escroto retardado, vc não le jornais ??
KUrintia na Libertadores é igual ao CHAVES, voce ja sabe o final, só assiste pra dar risada.
preocupe-se com o seu time
Não dá para justificar o injustificável. Um presidente destemperado e sem nenhuma condição de comando. Um “psicologo” de dar dó Dr. Serdan. Um bando de jogadores que se omite na hora “”H”. Uma administração sem eira e nem beira. É de dar dó. Não dá para justificar o injustificável.
Aí sim, e tem o traíra do time, que o Benjamin Back apontou no programa Estadio 97.
Só espero que não tirem o Muricy e no lugar dele ainda me tragam o Celso Roth…aí já não seria desespero…seria BURRICE mesmo!! RSRSRSRS
Não, o problema foi empatar com o SPORT / AVAÍ, perder para NAUTICO, FLUMINENSE ( se bem que nesse fomos operados ).
A Independente pproclama a paz em todos os estadios e ruas.
è facil responder para um escroto como voce, mas lendo isso da pra ver que se trata de um fedelho de uns 17 anos, que é “bandido organizado”. Esses eu classifico como menos importantes que substrato de pó-de-bosta.
eu também torço muito para que o beluzzo continue, principalmente não disputando título e o Sanchez analfabeto e tudo trouxe dois para o verdadeiro parque.
Pobre Corinthians foi o único paulista a ganhar títulos esse ano. buáaaaaaaaaa
E agora, como fica:
http://esporte.uol.com.br/ultimas/multi/2009/08/07/04023962C0A19346.jhtm?belluzzo-eliminaremos-corinthians-na-libertadores-em-2010-04023962C0A19346
faltou o nome do Muriçoca ai….ehhehehe
O Murici é Tricolor…tudo explicado…heheheheh
É Muricy….É Muricy….É Muricy……
O Muricy é Tricolor….hehehehe
e não esqueçam de agradecer tbm ao Kléber cotovelo….
O João, para de falar bosta, que que tem a ver o cara ser do plano cruzado ou não?
O problema é que ele fez merda essa ano, à frente do Palmeiras.
Paulinho, o desespero não é pela perda, e sim, como foi a perda.
A eliminação da Libertadores aconteceu num momento onde o Muricy tinha o time completo dentro de campo.
Esse treinador burro tirou o Sacconi para colocar o Sandro Silva porque queria segurar o resultado de 0x0, porque, matematicamente, asseguraria nossa vaga da Libertadores.
Agora, sem meias verdades, você acha que isso é coisa de treinador de time grande fazer?
Eu não sei o que acontece com o Muricy, se ele queria mesmo provocar isso para poder ir correndo pro Inter, ou se ele esqueceu mesmo como é ser treinador de vanguarda.
Aceitamos perder, sim, em prol de um bem maior, mas as perdas do verdão aconteceram porque faltou COMPETÊNCIA.
O time era líder, Paulinho! Esse burro desse técnico arrebentou com o time! O cara ficava assistindo o Edmilson errar passe atrás de passe e não fazia nada!
Depois na coletiva enchia o bucho de água com gás….
Pelo amor de Deus, Paulinho, se fosse pra fazer isso, deixasse o Jorginho no comando.
E o Love? Não jogou nada o campeonato inteiro! Eu acredito que ele não fez por maldade, mas fez!
Paulinho, espero de você uma coisa, que faça um post dizendo a VERDADE, essa que você sempre ostenta: O PALMEIRAS perdeu por uma série de fatores, mas, principalmente porque o técnico não sabe escalar o time!
Não tenho nada contra o Muricy, como pessoa, mas ele “fudeu” o meu time.
Essa, sim, é a verdade.
E agora, como é que fica Belluzzzzzzzzo?
http://esporte.ig.com.br/futebol/2009/07/22/ninguem+contrata+muricy+para+ser+5+colocado+diz+belluzzo+7435935.html
típíco de treinadores decadentes….
ele e o luxa se tornaram tão medrosos que não escalam time ofensivo nem jogando no palestra contra times de segunda….
concordo
Faltam mais alguns nomes, mas…onde eu assino ?
O que falta no futebol paulista é união.
O Beluzzo que eu achei que seria “o cara” que tinha condições de
unir os clubes se aliou ao andres e claramente bateu de frente com o SP.
Todas as declarações dele ele falava do SP
Até hoje não sei o motivo de sempre criticar o SP,talvez pq sempre foi
aliado a torcidas uniformizadas,tinha que mostrar isso ou devido a superioridade que o SP mostrou nos ultimos tempos.Bobagem
coisa tipica de torcedor como ficou provado nas declarações
que só acirrou a violencia,que ia bater no juiz que vamos matar(vamos
deixar de ser hipócritas,a desculpa q matar é jargão futebolistico é pura bobagem,falar vamos matar pra torcida uniformizada eles levam ao pé da letra,lógico).
Enquanto isso no Rio eles estão articulados,não deram efeito suspensivo
pro Borges e Dagoberto mas deram pro Juninho do Bota que jogou ontem apesar de ter levado 2 jogos de suspensão e acabaram ganhando de quem?
Apesar de ser um cara honesto e tal só mostrou amadorismo
E pra quem fala do Juvenal,não sou de defender cartola,meu negócio
é assistir o jogo e só,mas ele acaba sendo apesar de tudo um dos melhores dirigentes que tem no pais.
Podem falar que em terra de cego quem tem olho é rei mas ele e
a diretoria do SP estão a anos luz dos times paulistas e do Brasil
Quando a ingressos de madona deixo pro usurpador de cargo da federação paulista o sr del nero responder,coisa que ate agora
não provou nada do que disse.
VC SE ESQUECEU DA COPA DO BRASIL!!!
A MANEIRA MAIS FÁCIL DE ENVERGONHAR O FUTEBOL BRASILEIRO NO EXTERIOR!!!
VOCÊ VÃO ACABAR SE ALUGANDO PRA OUTRO CAFETÃO
NÃO É AZUL CALCINHA???
AMARELO MARCA TEXTO???
ROXO DESESPERO????
ROSEOS???
Quando o palmeiras conseguiu seu último título importante …
* Fernando Henrique Cardoso estava no seu primeiro mandato;
* O pessoal de informática se preocupava com o ‘bug do milênio’;
* A Volkswagen não tinha lançado o Gol 3ª geração;
* O Cid Moreira ainda apresentava o Jornal Nacional.
* Bill Clinton era presidente dos EUA.
* Era lançado o primeiro filme da série MATRIX.
* A encol não tinha falido;
* A Brahma e a Antarctica eram concorrentes (a AmBev não existia);
* A novela ‘Terra Nostra’ era o grande sucesso da Rede Globo;
* Mário Covas e Jorge Amado ainda era vivo;
* O World Trade Center (Torres gêmeas) ainda existia.
pra xxxxx td q acontece é primeiro culpa do SPFC e depois da Imprensa!!!!
Esses jornalistas são muito engraçados. Se fosse o Luxemburgo, estavam até agora descendo a lenha nele. Mas é o Muricy… Então coitado dele. O Belluzo vai em quadra de escola de samba, coitado dele. Se é o Andres, pau nele. Independente de moral, honra… Fizeram as mesmas coisas. O Muricy acabou com o Palmeiras, o time não tinha meio de campo, deixou o Vagner Love jogando mesmo mal tecnicamente.
Muito boa!!!! E eles estão achando que já ganharam a libertadores, só pq tem o Ronaldo e o tão temido Roberto Carlos(aquele q tava ajeitando o meião no gol da frança uhauhauhhua)
THOR, PORQUE VC NÃO FAZ COMO O SEU CRUZ EM RELAÇÃO AO MARCOS E PROMETE O SEU BRIOCO PRO BEBELUZZO
dirigente honesto?? huahuahuauhahua
prefiro comemorar titulos manézão….mesmo meu presidente sendo pinguço.
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O pior q é verdade.
E o Muricy tb tem rolo nessa historia, pq ele falou q la so tinha parceiro…
Outra cara piada.
IRMÃOS PALESTRINOS E PALMEIRENSES
CONFORME DIZEMOS A SEMANA PASSADA ESTÁVAMOS ESTUDANDO UMA FORMA PARA IMPEDIR O BELUZZO DA PRESIDÊNCIA DO PALESTRA .
CONSEGUIMOS A PROVA QUE NECESSITÁVAMOS PARA TIRAR ESSA FANTASIA DA PRESIDÊNCIA .
O BELUZZO MENTIU NO BALANCETE DO CLUBE REVELANDO APENAS UM PREJUIZO DE R$ 50 MILHÕES DE REAIS , QUANDO NA VERDADE ESSE VALOR SUPERA OS R$ 117 MILHÕES APENAS NESTE ANO .
O BELUZZO DESAPARECEU COM O MALFADADO CONTRATO COM A WTORRE NA FARSA DA CONSTRUÇÃO DA ARENA , ONDE REVELA VALORES TOTALMENTE DIFERENTES DAQUELES APRESENTADOS NO CONSELHO .
NESTA SEMANA ESTAREMOS REUNIDOS COM O PROPÓSITO DE MONTARMOS O IMPEDIMENTO DESSE PRESIDENTE , PARA QUE POSSAMOS FAZER DO PALESTRA AQUELE CLUBE QUE NOS ENCHEU DE ORGULHO POR TÔDOS ESSES ANOS E PELO SEU PASSADO.
ADIANTO A TÔDOS QUE O CECILIO , O CIPULLO , E O MURICY SERÃO DEMITIDOS DE QUALQUER PREÇO , ESSES HOMENS NÃO TEM IDENTIDADE ALGUMA COM O PROGRESSO DA NOSSA INSTITUIÇÃO , PRINCIPALMENTE O TECNICO QUE TEM PERFIL ADVERSÁRIO , ELE DEVERIA TER A OMBRIDADE EM NÃO BEIJAR O NOSSO MANTO SAGRADO COMO FORMA DE CHANTAGEM , SE FOSSE HONESTO DEVERIA ABRIR MÃO DE PARTE DO SEU GRANDE SALARIO PROL NOSSA INSTITUIÇÃO .
PELO CONTRÁRIO , EXIGIU LUVAS ADIANTADAS PARA ASSUMIR O PALESTRA , E O BELUZZO ACEITOU A IMPOSIÇÃO INOCENTEMENTE.
CONTAMOS COM A AJUDA DE TÔDOS VÔCES PARA QUE POSSAMOS RESGATAR A HONRA DO PALESTRA .
Concordo com vc, mas como fará isto. O Belluzzo gastou o que tinha e o que não tinha para ser campeão. A dívida do clube ultrapassa 100 milhões. O deficit mensal é alto (perto de 4 milhões) o deficit acumulado já chega perto dos 25 milhões (só este ano). Como sobreviver? A Traffic que abastece o clube com jogadores vive de ganhar dinheiro. Na realidade eles são gestores de ricaços interessados em investir em jogadores de futebol. Obviamente, que estes caras vão querer a melhor vitirne e em 2010 o Palmeiras não será, pois só disputará torneios regionais. Mesmo com o coração verde o J. Hawilla, não gosta de rasgar dinheiro. É gente preparem-se para um 2010 bem nebuloso, pois esta saida do Liberta já dá um prejuízo superior a 15 milhões (deixa de receber).
Ué vcs ja não eram os campeões Brasileiro-09 e iam nos tirar da Libertadores ? Que pena que não vão. Já sei. Joguem a Sul-Americana e tentem tirar o Santos, valeu !
Edmilson.
Se tinha um traíra, era obrigação do Muricy lidar com isso, não?
Infelizmente, isso chama espírito de perdedor. Que o Palmeiras tinha na época de Mustafá, onde não importava não ser campeão, o negócio era não gastar dinheiro, mesmo que a sua academia fosse inferior a da Ponte Preta (Conforme Alex apontou antes de sua saída).
Tinha esperança no Belluzo, mas não tenho mais. Pior que pela proximidade com as organizadas antes de seu mandato, eu já esperava por isso.
Esse carta tá loco!!!!
Loco!!
Celso Roth é melhor que o Muricy.
Ele não se esconde atrás de esquemas covardes, usa a base do clube, e faz times limitados ir além de sua capacidade.
Nunca ganhou nada? Pois bem, ele foi operado na final da Libertadores contra o Boca, o que foge de sua alçada.
Aliás, teve um técnico que fez o que o Muricy fez esse ano durante 5 anos seguidos. No último ano, o time dele precisava de 3 pontos em 5 jogos. Ele fez 1. Foi assim de 2001 a 2005.
Em 2006 ele assumiu o Inter. Seu nome? Abel Braga.
Último técnico brasileiro campeão da Libertadores e Mundial.
Xi…Voltou o São Paulino disfarçado de Corinthiano.
Amigo, todo torcedor corinthiano dá valor ao Paulista. O fato de você se travestir de um, é por inveja, ou alguma paixão reprimida pelo time que só maltrata o seu? De tanto apanhar agora vocês gamaram?
E entregar à quem? Desculpa, mas seu time é o da Vila Sônia, ACP. Esse seu disfarce de Palmeirense não te cabe. Vá cuidar do Borges e do DAgô!!
Não sei a nossa mas qualquer cor que VOCÊ use não fará diferença pra mim…
RSRSRSRSRSRSRSRSRSRS
*A nossa CAMISA, e a SUA calcinha….RSRSRSRSRS
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PODE CONTAR COMIGO. VOU DAR 50 LITROS DE GASOLINA.
Mas o cara(lembre-se de 2001)já nos fez de cavalo parguaio uma vez…aliás todo time que ele dirige vira cavalo paraguaio…rsrs
E quem gasta mais dinheiro é a HERANÇA MALDITA DO GORDO MALDITO, a parte SOCIAL.
Sera que o da tua mãe aceita ?
VOLTA PARA OS QUINTOS DOS INFERNOS OU VAI PARA PQP, E LEVA JUNTO AQUELE DEPÓSITO DE COLESTEROL E BANHA CHAMADO MUSGAMBÁ.
E TEM MAIS, QUANDO NÃO DA PRA GANHAR NA COMPETENCIA VOCES FICAM ARMANDO COISAS SUJAS PARA JOGAR NOS OUTROS ? E AS SUJEIRAS QUE VOCES FIZERAM ? CUIDADO, PAU QUE DA EM CHICO DA EM FRANCISCO.
Osvaldo não adianta chorar, a cada fracasso aparece o fantasma do mustagamba.
Meu caro Osaldo. O futebol também está dando deficit, os empréstimos bancários camuflam a coisa. Quanto a parte social ela não é do Mustafá, ela existe desde a época do branco e preto e não só no Palmeiras, mas nos outros clubes também. Tudo bem que vc não gosta do gordo e quem gostaria depois de ver ele jogar o time na série “B”, mas não podemos ficar eternamente usando ele, para encobrir os erros da atual diretoria, que por sinal é bem fraquinha. O Muricy Ramalho só deu certo no São Paulo, pelo fato do JJ o tratar como filho e o blindar de todas as críticas. Quando ele perdeu o apoio o elenco rachou e ele não segurou. No Palmeiras ele não foi capaz de evitar a rachadura do elenco, pois não tinha o mesmo apoio que tinha do outro lado do muro. Quer você queira ou não, esta diretoria infelicitou os palmeirenses e os fez passar a maior frustação e vergonha não sentida desde a queda para a série “B”.
Celso Roth já provou que é uma garrafa pet de 3 litros, começa que é uma delícia mas vai aos pucos perdendo o gás e acaba no lixo.
E é esse cara que a imprensa acha o máximo hein!!
No lugar de dizer que ele é o máximo, eles deveriam dizer que ele é o vidente mais famoso do Brasil, muito mais que a mãe Dinah.
Concordo com você. O rombo é imenso. Só não sei quem poderia assumir, mas tem que ser com urgência, pois depois do fracasso deste ano, 2010 se avizinha muito escuro e sem apoio e com muitas dívidas podemos voltar para a série B. Tomara que não aconteça, mas estou contigo alguma coisa tem que ser feita.
vamos rir dos rosadinhos
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APOIADO !
Fomos enganados igual o Lula enganou o povão .
Fora do meu verdão
Perder/Ganhar, faz parte do jogo…
A questão é como se perde/se ganha. Se você só vê títulos, corre o risco de ter um panorama meio torto da realidade…Qual era o time que o técnico pegou? Quais eram os adversários? Se não tem como avaliar isso, não pode comparar os trabalhos…
Se não me engano, o ataque do Palmeiras era Asprilla e Penna(?) Com as sensacionais entradas daquele careca (que não é o Afonso) que fez sucesso no Santos..
E com esse “esquadrão”, foi vice da Libertadores.
É a mesma coisa que o são paulino faz ao comparar os goleiros. Claro que a carreira de Rogério é muito mais vitoriosa. Mas enquanto ele teve Miranda, Fabão, Breno, André Dias e Lugano a sua frente, Marcos tinha Júnior Baiano e Roque Júnior (Os que dá para lembrar sem chorar). E goleiro, assim como o técnico, é parte de um time, onde um dia ruim de uma peça pode perder o trabalho de 1 ano. O grande milagre de São Marcos foi ter sido campeão mundial com Edmilson, Roque Júnior e Polca(Esse eu não tenho certeza).
Mas se voce quiser levar em conta apenas o resultado final, olha como ficaria a comparação entre técnicos:
Se o critério for Libertadores:
Renato Gaúcho é igual Mano Menezes e Celso Roth.
Mano Menezes é igual a Jair Picerni e a Adilson Baptista.
Telê Santana é igual a Autuori.
Felipão é igual a Autuori.
Carpegiani é igual a Antonio Lopes.
Se o critério for Brasileiros:
Telê Santana é igual a Leão e Antonio Lopes.
Muricy é melhor que Telê Santana
Luxemburgo é melhor que Telê Santana e Muricy.
Antonio Lopes é melhor que Nelsinho e Geninho.
Antonio Lopes é melhor que Felipão.
Calma moça…
É impressão minha, ou vc anda meio deprimida ???
Mas quem disse que esse Palestrino é palmeirense. Amigos, reparem no discurso dele. Não é nada famíliar? Ele é são paulino, que alimenta a “fantástica” discussão “meu presidente é melhor que o seu”…
Coisa muito adulta, por sinal..
Com o presidente Mustafá o Palmeirense não era colecionador de vergonhas e fracassos , estamos sendo enxovalhados desde que a oposição assumiu a direção do clube .
Não dá mais pra suportar tantos fracassos seguidos e fazermos o papel de otários diante dessa diretoria .
Chega de golpista no Palmeiras .
VOLTA MUSTAFÁ !
Fale em PORTUGUÊS correto…RSRSRSRSRS
OK, me mostre os esquadrões que já deram para ele e a posição final desses times no campeonato. O cara leva times do nível do Sport a disputar títulos, e quando não ganha dizem que ele é ruim.
Olha Alessandro, legal a tua comparação, mas aqui talvez eu é que não me fiz entender…eu queria dizer que o Celso Roth é fraco em campeonatos de tiro longo…sempre refuga.
Entendo que é importante DISPUTAR títulos, mas GANHAR é melhor ainda, concorda????
pow Osvaldynho sai do colo do Seo Cruz antes d comentar
ps: realmente seria muito bom s eu tivesse meus 17 anos d volta
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e fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiica BBlluzzo
São Paulino,
Não me deprimo mais com futebol. Passei dessa fase, cresci.
Enquanto você trabalha e paga imposto como seus amigos e parentes corinthianos, palmeirenses e são paulinos, dirigentes do seu, do meu time desviam dinheiro de impostos para seus bolsos.
E antes de vir com “No meu time isso não acontece”, pense bem. O São Paulo entrou na timemania, não entrou? E qual o benefício dessa negociata? Pagar impostos federais (geralmente trabalhistas) DEVIDOS. Se o São Paulo recolhesse imposto normalmente, como QUALQUER EMPRESA SÉRIA, não teria entrado na timemania.
E para alguns desavisados. Só entraria na Timemania quem tinha imposto devido no governo. Ninguém era obrigado, mas era obrigado a pagar os impostos. Os times aderiram porque era a melhor forma de pagar a dívida.
E sabe porque o governo não cobra os times como deve? Porque ninguém vai reclamar se o governo chegar para uma Ambev, Souza Cruz e falar: “Vocês tem 100 milhões de impostos em dívidas. Pague amanhã ou vocês fecham”, como aliás eles fazem com as micro-empresas. Mas vai cobrar o devido de Flamengo, Corinthians, Palmeiras, São Paulo, que um monte de palerma igual a você vai defender pessoas que nunca viu na vida, e trabalhar que nem um asno a mais para dar para o governo aquilo que o seu time sonegou. E vai tentar achar briga na internet com um monte de cara honesto que trabalha honestamente que nem você, mas que torce para outro time. E ainda vai se passar por rival, questionando a sexualidade alheia, para tirar um “sarrinho”…
O que me consola a ver pessoas como você é saber que vocês nunca chegarão a empresários, grandes jornalistas ou qualquer coisa de destaque. Terão seus 15 minutos de fama em blogs, e só.
Rodrigo, saiu no lance, mes passado
Futebol – Superavit R$ 800.000,00
Social – Defict R4 1.500.000,00
Quem da prejuízo ? Quem gostava mais do Social ? Quem odiava a categoria de base ?
A Parmalat fez uma proposta antes de sair, investiria pesadíssimo na base, só que teria prioridade na contratação, e o lucro 50-50.
Seria esse um mau negocio ?
E mandar embora a adidas e contratar a Rhummel ?
RATONES
Se o post foi pra mim eu te respondo, nunca proclamei o meu time campeão, todo esse cuidado, para não passar vergonha depois, coisa que o Kurintia esta fazendo com a Libertadores. Acha que porque faz cem anos ja ganhou, não é bem assim, concorda ?
Alessandro, é facil falar agora, tem mais podres, e quem sabe não pode falar, infelizmente.
Maldito GORDO, não teve vergonhas ??? E descer para a serie B ? Foi uma conquista ilustre ??? Vai chupar a cueca do GORDO CHEIO DE COLESTEROL.
Paulinho. Sou um rapaz que zela pelo bom senso, sou muito coerente na minha vida.
Por isso opino com toda razão e friamente que o Beluzzo, Traffic e demais dirigentes fizeram o que tinham que fazer. Mantiveram Clayton Xavier, Pierre, Mauricio, Diego Souza e ainda trouxeram Figueroa e Vagner Love.
O Beluzzo é um cara fantástico, porém confiou no Muricy Ramalho que veio com a intenção de sabotar o Palmeiras no campo e nos cofres, afim de favorecer o São Paulo, seu outro empregador.
É uma pena, mas é isso que aconteceu. E isso é cheio de verdade.
Fora Muricy !!! Fica Beluzzo !!!
FRANCISCO TERRA. BRAÇO FORTE. MÃO AMIGA.
Juarez, vc não tem ideia de como é dificil resolver as coisas que o FREDDY KRUEGER OBESO deixou.
E mais uma coisa, a MANCHA não pode achar que é dona do Palmeiras, falar que tem que mandar embora esse e aquele. É como eu ouvi na JovemPan. Um bando de tonto se filia à essa organização, e paga, porque se não pagar esta ferrado.
Se fosse socio do Palmeiras, depois de um tempo teria direito a voto, aí sim, isos seria ter poder pra decidir alguma coisa, e não ficar jogando pedra, ameaçando jogador em Banco, falando que via resolver na bala.
Se eu lhe entendi, Alessandro meu caro, você admira aqueles técnicos que “tiram leite de pedra”, como fez o Leão que “achou” Robinho, Elano, Diego, garotos do Santos-02(aquilo foi um ACHADO mesmo)…??? Ou o Telê Sanana em 79, com aquele time de garotos do Palmeiras, que QUASE(uma pena!)foi o grande campeão de 79???
Eu também admiro técnicos que fazem boa limonada desde é claro, que se tenha os limões na mão…rsrs
Enio Andrade também tinha o dom de montar times eficientes com o que dispunha, tanto que foi campeão com o Coritiba de Lela, em 1985…
Umas “moças”…RSRSRSRSRSRSRSRSRS
João….Plano Cruzado ? Voce é burro ou canalha ? Pare de lançar mentiras neste solo sagrado que é o Blog do Paulinho.
Ele estava na equipe econômica do Brasil, mas foi contra. Foi voto vencido na decisão de impedir a implantação do Plano Cruzado.
Essa já é a enésima vez que escrevo isso e o pessoal não aprende.
-X-X-X- RECADO DE CONSOLO À ANDRADE NETO -X-X-X-X
Amigo ANDRADINHO. Sei que voce deve estar muito mal nesta segunda feira. Eu mesmo mal consegui dormir, pois a decepção foi tremenda.
É difícil aceitar o que fizeram com a torcida. Estes sim, apaixonados.
Mas o Palmeiras está a apenas 01 ano na fila, pois ganhou o Paulistão de 2008 dando show.
Não é hora de desespero, mas sim de tirar alguns elementos do time para que tudo volte ao normal.
Agora não me lembro, mas no primeiro semestre você era corinthiano, sãopaulino, ex-torcedor, ou ex ex-torcedor ?
Acaso tenha sido corinthiano deve estar relembrando as conquistas do Paulistão e Copa do Brasil.
Enfim. Que você tenha sabedoria para definir sua torcida.
Eu sei pra quem torço e deste time não abro mão. Sou ANDRADE NETO ESPORTE CLUBE.
Obrigado. Boa sorte !!
FRANCISCO TERRA. UM BRASILEIRO. UM DEMOCRATA.
O Muricy é um sabotador. Isso sim.
-X-X-X- RECADO DE CONSOLO À ANDRADE NETO -X-X-X-X
Amigo ANDRADINHO. Sei que voce deve estar muito mal nesta segunda feira. Eu mesmo mal consegui dormir, pois a decepção foi tremenda.
É difícil aceitar o que fizeram com a torcida. Estes sim, apaixonados.
Mas o Palmeiras está a apenas 01 ano na fila, pois ganhou o Paulistão de 2008 dando show.
Não é hora de desespero, mas sim de tirar alguns elementos do time para que tudo volte ao normal.
Agora não me lembro, mas no primeiro semestre você era corinthiano, sãopaulino, ex-torcedor, ou ex ex-torcedor ?
Acaso tenha sido corinthiano deve estar relembrando as conquistas do Paulistão e Copa do Brasil.
Enfim. Que você tenha sabedoria para definir sua torcida.
Eu sei pra quem torço e deste time não abro mão. Sou ANDRADE NETO ESPORTE CLUBE.
Obrigado. Boa sorte !!
FRANCISCO TERRA. UM BRASILEIRO. UM DEMOCRATA.
Sinceramente, será que ele é fraco ou os times que ele dirige é que são fracos, e na hora H não tem jogadores decisivos? Aí a questão seria o técnico não soube extrair aquilo que os jogadores não tinham na hora H, ou ele extraiu tudo durante todo o tempo que isso foi possível?
Esses são paulinos mudando de nick são brincadeiras…E pior o outro que tem 6 anos, e não viu as eliminações na Copa-BR frente ao ASA e Ceará, a queda para segunda divisão… Além dos anos jogando como figurantes no campeonato.
O meu vizinho palmeirense, um garoto de 15 anos, até hoje só gritou “é campeão” uma única vez na vida, em 2008… isso com um paulistinha.
Enquanto outro vizinho sãopaulino, um garoto de 15 anos tb, já gritou “é campeão” 6 vezes, com um paulistinha, uma Libertadores, um Mundial e três Brasileiros.
E outro, que mora na favela aqui perto e tb com 15 anos, gritou “é campeão” 7 vezes, com um Rio-SP, três paulistinhas, duas Copas do Brasil e um Brasileiro.
Quanta diferença entre esses jovens torcedores! Comparando as situações, penso como deve ser frustrante mesmo ser palmeirense, e não saber o que é gritar “é campeão” por tanto tempo!
Mostra o quanto é amador
ou politico que promete o que não pode cumprir.
SABE, PAULINHO, NEM O GÊNIO DO PLANO REAL NEM A MARAVILHOSA TORCIDA PALESTRINA – TIRANDO O BOCA DE PORCO OSVALDO SEP – NEM MESMO O ELENCO E SEU TREINADOR MERECIAM ESSE GOLPE FATAL.
O PALMEIRAS É MUITO MAIOR DO QUE TUDO E DO QUE TODOS, E DENTRO DE POUCO TEMPO ESTAREMOS DE VOLTA ÀS GLÓRIAS.
O PAULISTA E A COPA DO BRASIL NOS ESPERAM.
NOS SAGRAREMOS CAMPEÕES DESSES DOIS CAMPEONATOS E NOVAMENTE SEREMOS O TIME MAIS FORTE DO BRASIL.
O NOSSO PROJETO É A LIBERTADORES E O MUNDIAL DE 2011.
EU ACREDITO, IRMÃO PALESTRINO.
E VOCÊ?
ANDRADE NETO, VERITAS ODIUM PARIT.
Palmeiras…a PIADA do ano!
E eu do risada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Chora……………Piada
O time do Grêmio no ano passado era bem melhor que o deste ano. E ele perdeu o título depois de estar 11 pontos a frente. Não queira defender o indefensável.
Fica Belluzo Fica Belluzo Fica Belluzo Fica Belluzo Fica Belluzo Fica Belluzo Fica Belluzo Fica Belluzo Fica Belluzo Fica Belluzo
A pessoa quando está se afogando agarra em qualquer lugar, que desespero meu.
Coitado !!!!!! ele está perdido, não sabe o que fala.
O que eu posso fazer e rezar para seu falecido time.
Digo Palestra Itália e não Parque Antarctica
E já que falamos de Palmeiras, vale lembrar que mesmo contratando craques, novo técnico e empolgados com 19 rodadas de liderança e expectativa de fim de jejum de 15 anos, a “fanática” torcida palmeirense teve média de público 43% inferior à do São Paulo que ficou a maior parte do campeonato em má colocação, jogando mal e sua torcida ainda de barriga cheia por 3 títulos seguidos. Mesmo sem chances de título ainda haviam 31.000 pagantes no Morumbi contra o Sport e com preços majorados dos ingressos (R$1.136.000 de renda) enquanto o Palmeiras para ter 25.000 no Pqe Antártica quando mais precisava de sua torcida contra o Atlético, essa só compareceu por causa de uma drástica redução dos preços dos ingressos (renda de R$583.000).
Quem é torcida de modinha mesmo?
Palmeiras, time decadende, endividado, vendido para seu parceiro, sem gestão, brigas internas, sem títulos e perdendo torcida a cada ano.
Que decadência!
Deu agora na JP , que isso ai que ele está falando é verdade , estão reunidos agora estudando os numeros do Beluzzo e a possibilidade de um impedimento do presidente .
Esse tal de palestrino deve ser gente de lá de dentro , ele disse isso as 13:00 , e o programa disse as 20:30
hehehehe.. no seu caso, vc vai só assistir mesmo.. hahahahahahahaaha
Porque?
O “Be Loser” já entregou o culpado pelo gas às autoridades?
A “Escolinha do Tio Juvenal” vai ministrar um curso intensivo de ferias sobre administração clibistica.
Ainda dá tempo de matricularem toda a direção suina lá.
O Palmerdas se preocupa mais com o São Paulo desde 1935.
HUAHUAHUA!
São essas promessas que desanimam os jogadores.
Mas não é beneficiada pelo Juvenal.
O SPFC é o unico que não ajuda findanceiramente as organizadas.
Alviverde/SP
AÍ É QUE VOCÊ SE ENGANA QUEM LANÇOU DIEGO,ROBINHO E OUTROS FOI O CELSO ROTH E MOSTROU PARA A DIREÇÃO DO SANTOS A CAPACIDADE DE CADA UM.
O LEÃO CHEGOU LOGO EM SEGUIDA, E COMO O MT DISSE QUE O CLUBE NÃO TINHA DINHEIRO PARA CONTRATAÇÕES NÃO TEVE OUTRA ALTERNATIVA COLOCOU A MOLECADA, MAS ANTES, RECLAMOU MUITO PORQUE QUERIA JOGADORES MAIS EXPERIENTES.
A CESAR O QUE É DE CESAR!
ANDRADINHO ????
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE VIADAGEM
O infeliz que foi preso se entregou, vc estava onde ? na lua ???
Jodecir…
Odeio Organizadas/uniformizadas e o mais que o sejam, depois delas o futebol virou guerra.
Celso rumo ao 6-4-4
EU TAMBÉM TENHO UM VIZINHO PALMEIRENSE COM 102 ANOS NUNCA GRITOU É CAMPEÃO MUNDIAL, ESTÁ SÓ ESPERANDO A FIFA RECONHECER AQUELE TORNEIO DE MIL NOVECENTOS E ANTIGAMENTE PARA SOLTAR A VOZ !É CAMPEÃO E DAR A VOLTA OLÍMPICA!
TEM CHANCE?
AH, ELE TEM O TÍTULO ENQUADRADO E PENDURADO NA PAREDE.
SABE, FRANCISCO, VOCÊ FAZ PARTE DA MINHA FAMÍLIA.
COM VOCÊ APRENDI A TORCER, A PERSEVERAR, A PERMANECER NO AGUARDO DE COISAS MELHORES QUE CERTAMENTE VIRÃO.
SAIBA QUE O MEU AGRADECIMENTO POR TUDO O QUE VOCÊ FAZ POR MIM É POR TODA VIDA.
ANO QUE VEM O PALESTRA VOLTARÁ A SER PALESTRA.
O GÊNIO DA ECONOMIA VAI NOS RECOLOCAR NO CAMINHO CERTO.
E SERÁ MELHOR, POIS MUITO MAIS SOFRIDO.
MUITO OBRIGADO POR TUDO, FRANCISCO.
ANDRADE NETO, VERITAS ODIUM PARIT.
SABE, FRANCISCO, VOCÊ FAZ PARTE DA MINHA FAMÍLIA.
COM VOCÊ APRENDI A TORCER, A PERSEVERAR, A PERMANECER NO AGUARDO DE COISAS MELHORES QUE CERTAMENTE VIRÃO.
SAIBA QUE O MEU AGRADECIMENTO POR TUDO O QUE VOCÊ FAZ POR MIM É POR TODA VIDA.
ANO QUE VEM O PALESTRA VOLTARÁ A SER PALESTRA..
O GÊNIO DA ECONOMIA VAI NOS RECOLOCAR NO CAMINHO CERTO.
E SERÁ MELHOR, POIS MUITO MAIS SOFRIDO.
MUITO OBRIGADO POR TUDO, FRANCISCO.
ANDRADE NETO, VERITAS ODIUM PARIT.
ANDRADINHO ????
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE “RAPAZ ALEGRE”
Você não entendeu então, meu caro…e daí que o Celso Roth lançou????
Quem se CONSAGROU foi o Leão…do Roth quase ninguém lembra. ENTENDEU agora????
Você não entendeu então, meu caro…e daí que o Celso Roth lançou????
Quem se CONSAGROU foi o Leão…do Roth quase ninguém lembra. ENTENDEU agora????
Osvaldo, Sou contra essa pressão que a torcida exerce sobre a necessidade de se ganhar a Libertadores. Acho que o Corinthians tem que se estruturar para participar todo ano dela, ai uma hora ele conquista. Agora se participar a cada 5 anos com essa pressão, fica dificil.
Quem se consagrou fopi o Leão, mas quem lançou fou o CR.
O Leão inclusive não queria o Robinho porque tinha pernas finas.
Gustavo buenos días, somos del Congreso Estatal de Sostenibilidad Ambientalia 2010.
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Agradeciendo de antemano,
recibe un cordial saludo,
Chema García.