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Mentira tem perna curta

Da FOLHA DE SÃO PAULO

PAINEL FC

Tchau, tchau.

Cartolas disseram ter ouvido de Walter Torre que ele estava deixando o projeto da arena palmeirense.

Os comentários de gente influente do clube é que não há dinheiro para a construção e que os entraves burocráticos afastam mais parceiros.

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63 comentários sobre “Mentira tem perna curta

  1. Lucas Lopes

    Você tem que parar de reproduzir essas notas do Painel FC sem apurar. Quem são os Cartolas e essa gente influente do clube? Aí fica fácil inventar qualquer coisa. Até alguém do clube ou da WTorre oficialmente afirmar qualquer coisa, você não deve ficar publicando esses sensacionalismos. Coisa de gente que só quer ver o circo pegar fogo. Lamentável.

  2. ARTHUR

    Cartolas… quais cartolas ????

    Gente influente, quem ???

    Po Paulinho, isto é jornalismo com credibilidade ?

    Cadê os nomes ?

  3. Gustavo Leite

    Paulito,
    Qual a data em que foi publicado isto na Folha de SP? Quero ver a reportagem completa … Aguardo, obrigado…

  4. fernando

    hahaha…Adeus arena ultragaz!!!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahhahahaaha aliás os unicos que acreditaram na “pegadinha da WTorre” foram os palmeirenses…hahahahhahahahahahaahahhahahahaahhaahahah

  5. Velho Casca

    Quem seriam esses “cartolas” ? Quem seria essa “gente influente” ? Esse painel da Folha é uma vergonha e uma falta de respeito com a inteligência do leitor . Basta ver que comentários assim não aparecem quando o envolvido é o SPFW .

  6. Palestrino

    Era obvio que não haveria arena , apenas foi mais um golpe para estar na mídia , conquistar credibilidade, e quem sabe aparecer algum otário para bancar um sonho .

    O Palestra parou no tempo e no espaço , tôdos os discursos de dirigentes são baseados em recuperação de imagem , e reconhecimento internacional, admitindo que o visinho está degraus acima .

    A parte dificil virá agora , eles terão que divulgar o fracasso e assumirem publicamente que o Palmeiras não fará parte do futuro do futebol.

    OBRIGADO DIRIGENTES , VÔCES CONSEGUIRAM !

  7. Delduque Amaral

    E agora a onda verde que frequenta este espaço e metia o pau em você e em quem duvidava que a arena iria sair. Como é que fica. Sei, todos vão dizer que a FSP é mal informada e vc também. Vamos aguardar.

  8. Terencio Trindade

    Agora cobre de seus colegas de imprensa que defenderam o empreendimento do Palmeiras. Um deles seu guro Juca Kfouri.

  9. Luís Carlos

    Os problemas da W. Torre e do Palmeiras tem nomes: Gilberto Fronhab, Walter Fronheidman, José Genérico Burns Miguelão Serra, e DVD panetone-2014.

  10. Julian Nabhan

    quando alguem mostrar uma arena da W torre eu vou passar a acreditar na arena palestra italia.

  11. machado

    Palavras são palavras, nada mais do que palavras, já dizia Chico Anísio.
    E palavras o vento leva.
    Que esta complicado não é novidade, principalmente pelos entraves burocráticos. Mas o desfecho, ainda não se sabe.

  12. Luis

    Esse ai é famoso painel SPFC

    esse é o tipo de nota que soltam pra tumultuar o ambiente , nao tem nome de quem falou nem nada……

    normal vindo de um jornalista do spfw

  13. Carlos

    Pois é… e isso porque o Projeto Arena Palestra é sério e tem um Belluzzo por trás… imagina se não tivesse isso então? E ainda tem jornalista na imprensa que leva a sério quando o SPFC diz que irá obter 340 milhões de reais APENAS junto à iniciativa privada, e não irá utilizar um centavo sequer do dinheiro público para o seu estádio particular.
    Tem gente que pensa que investidor é BURRO, e aplica dinheiro bom em negócio ruim, como o elefante branco irreformável e anacrônico da V. Sônia, que sequer a Fifa garante na Copa; só quem acredita em conversinha furada de Juvenais, MAC’s e outros bossais do tipo são alguns “espertos” jornalistas esportivos mesmo.

  14. Gabriel

    Tava na cara que parecia uma “Pegadinha do malandro” — “ha”…ja era…

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  17. Maurício

    Painel FC, sempre esteve do lado do Mustafá, vai esperar o que?, só pode ser notícia plantada a fim de tumultuar o ambiente no Palestra.

    Acorda Paulinho

    Saudações

  18. Marcelo Batista

    Esse ai acredita em papai noel, acrediatar na reforma de um estádio que NÃO ESTÁ NOS PLANOS DE SER PALCO DA COPA é piada! Chora xxxxxxxx, huaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

  19. Muffin

    É isso que acontece quando uma diretoria tem mais marqueteiro do que técnicos conhecedores do assunto. Nosso presidente mal sabe o que é um projeto de prefeitura, caso contrário não teria dito que assinou 80 “plantas”.
    Pra quem tem um mínimo de conhecimento em engenharia ou arquitetura, estava claro desde o início que esse projeto não sairia. Vamos ver ser as ostras virtuais, os blogueiros chapa-branca do Beluzo, vão se desculpar pelas inúmeras ofensas que fizeram a quem se opôs à esse projeto ridículo e absurdo.

  20. Mauro

    Existe um contrato e uma multa altíssima em caso de desistencia de uma das partes envolvidas

  21. Alviverde/SP

    “Cartolas disseram ouvir falar”…”Gente influente do clube”…
    Olha, eu mesmo sempre fiquei com um pé atrás nesse projeto da WTorre,
    mas será que essa gente do Mustafá tem que espalhar a quatro ventos, só para tentar negativar a atual gestão do clube????

  22. ADVOGADO do DIABO

    Interessante, como são as pessoas.

    Quantas perguntas, hein??? Quantos questionamentos??!!

    Quando o Paulinho faz uma denúncia de um clube que não é o seu, a pessoa acredita no Paulinho, o parabeniza pela investigação, por sua credibilidade, etc e tal…

    Quando a denúncia é feita contra o seu time, o dito cujo, diz que o Paulinho foi precipitado, e ou, faltou checar mais… ou seja, não acredita no dono do blog.

    Até duvida de sua credibilidade.

    E ASSIM, CAMINHA A HUMANIDADE.

  23. uLISSES

    Paulinho…esse painel da Folha não é muito confiável e oferece informações pouco concretas.
    Porém nesta parece que diz coisa com coisa. Por favor Paulinho, caso vc saiba responda:
    É verdade que um dos principais diretores da W.Torre é o Walter Torre Junior, conhecido nas rodas sociais como Torrinha, um tremendo playboy, que só quer saber de farrear, curtir mulherada, bebidas e que NUNCA demonstrou condições de maturidade para herdar os negócios do pai ?
    E que seu pai vive um dilema em saber que não há condições de passar a empresa para seu filho porque ele seria capaz de acabar com tudo ?

    RESPONDE ESSA POR FAVOR PAULINHO.. UM ABRAÇO !

  24. Ricardo Lopes - Original

    A impresinha pro-leonores esta desesperada, fakes e mais fakes…hahahahahahahaha

  25. Lamberto Alves

    Elefante Branco? Uahuahauahuahauah!

    O Morumbi rende ao São Paulo 3 milhões ao ano.

    Tirando os shows e bilheteria, tem o Morumbi Concept Hall, que está alcançando resultados positivos.

    E o Palestra Ultragás? O que é que tem? Uma piscina bem atrás do gol. ( (A única do planeta). Fora que é um treme-treme na arquibancada.

    O São Paulo, ao contrário dos mafiosos da Turuiassu, tem um projeto.

    O Palmeiras só tem promessa de dirigentes incompetentes.

  26. Ricardo Lopes - Original

    Paulinho vc sabe quem é o pai do editor de política da FALHA DO SÃO PAULO????????????????

    Vc viu a materia públicada pela FALHA DO SÃO PAULO SP
    “A Copa: responsabilidade e legado”, o texto é escrito por João Paulo Jesus Lopes.

    Como vende bem esse rapaz, hahahahahaha

    Essa Falha do São Paulo, não se vende…entrega.

  27. Jair Pedro

    Se arena (ou xxxxxx) não sair, daqui a 10 anos os xxxxx começaram espalhar alguma lenda imputando o problema à maldade incomensurada do SPFC.

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  29. Maurício

    Vc não é Palestrino de jeito nenhum, vc só fala mal do Palmeiras, vc só inventou este nick só para disfarçar, seu xxxxxxx.

  30. ADVOGADO do DIABO

    Se não tem argumentos
    pra falar, fica quieto.

    Esta molecada, hein?!

    6-3-3 deve ser sua idade, né?

    12 anos.

  31. Bernardo

    Mas o Paulinho não denunciou nada, só republicou uma nota da Folha de S. Paulo. Vai me dizer que você acredita cegamente no que a Folha escreve?

  32. José Roberto da Silva

    Esse furo n’água já era previsto eu lembro que fiz um comentário no blog do Chico Lang que o Palmeiras infelizmente estava entregando a alma ao diabo, pois estava disponto do seu bem mais precioso e das poucas coisas que ainda comandava o Palestra Itália, já que o futebol depois da parceria com a Parmalat já não era mais o mesmo.Questionava ainda se no contrato não havía uma clausula de multa caso o projeto não desse certo e perguntava ainda se a multa não sería em prejuizo do clube, perguntei isto baseando-me no péssimo negócio que o cúrintia fez com o msi, nestes casos, como os clubes não pertencem aos dirigentes, que o objetivo é entregar a agremiação em troca de vantagens pessoais.
    Isso vai dar pano pra muita manga.
    Pobre Palmeiras um clube que aprendi admirar desde pequeno quando o time era formado por:
    Valdir Joaquim de Moraes, Djalma Santos, Valdemar Carabina, Aldemar, Zequinha e Geraldo Scotto. Julinho Botelho, Nardo, Américo Murolo, Chinesinho e Romeiro.
    Era um timaço!!!!!

  33. Palestrino

    O verdadeiro torcedor do Palmeiras não é aquele que somente torce por resultados , é aquele que torce pela instituição desejando sempre o melhor de uma forma limpa , honesta e transparente.
    Só assim cresceremos verdadeiramente .

    Pergunto aos torcedores de resultados :
    -Vamos crescer divulgando e acreditando em farsas ?
    -Vôces acham que o Luxemburgo merece o Palestra?
    – Vôces desejam que o Palestra se torne uma lavanderia de capital advindo do exterior , dinheiro fruto de um golpe dado em cima de um pais irmão?
    -Vôces venderiam as suas mães a troco de um titulo?

    Se a resposta fôr sim , vôces não merecem o Palestra .

  34. Joselito

    Painel FC
    Fonte: Folha de S.Paulo
    Data: 16/06/2009

    Nota oficial.
    A WTorre afirma que o projeto da arena do Palmeiras aguarda liberação de alvarás pela prefeitura. Diz a empresa que pode começar a erguê-la neste ano.

  35. Maurício

    Continuo afirmando, vc não é Palestrino, esta usando este nick em pró de outra torcida.

    Saudações.

  36. Maurício

    Divulgue esta nota agora Paulinho.

    Saiu do Painel FC

    Nota oficial.
    A WTorre afirma que o projeto da arena do Palmeiras aguarda liberação de alvarás pela prefeitura. Diz a empresa que pode começar a erguê-la neste ano.

    ****

    Continuo dizendo, esta diretoria merece o nosso respeito, só quem não é Palestrino pode duvidar do Belluzzo, como o colega acima(com o nick falso de Palestrino) que esta muito mal informado ou se faz de mal informado.

    Saudações

  37. Maurício

    Vc esta muito mal informado, existe sim multa no contrato e é das mais pesadas, o Palmeiras não vai ceder o patrimônio mas concessão de espaço por trinta anos, aí pode se discutir se é ou não um bom negócio, mas só o tempo dirá.

    Sem falar que existe um seguro com o Banco Santander.

    Saudações

  38. Gustavo

    Primeiramente, não pretendo desabonar ninguém. Mas há tempos que não consigo atribuir certa credibilidade em notícias veiculadas dessa forma: “Cartolas disseram ter ouvido…”; “Os comentários de gente influente do clube é…”.

    Descredito que isso seja um jornalismo sério.

    “A condição principal do boato é a ambigüidade, ou seja, a carência de informações seguras e objetivas. Ele ocorre em um meio social homogêneo, entre indivíduos que possuem os mesmos interesses…” (AUGRAS, Monique, Opinião pública. Petrópolis, Vozes, 1970).

  39. marvin

    Olhem o Painel FC hoje… Em nota oficial a W Torre diz que apenas aguarda a parte burocrática e que pode começar a erguer a arena ainda esse ano.

  40. Eu

    Seguro do Santander? A WTorre é responsável pela construção do prédio do Santander na Margianal (aquele que era o esqueleto da CESP). As obras já estão bem atrasadas e existe uma multa grande para a construtora pagar por dia de atraso. O prédio não está com cara nenhuma de ficará pronto logo e a porrada já foi para a justiça. Boa sorte ao Palmeiras . É mais fácil o inferno congelar do que receber algo da WTorre.

  41. t-s

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  43. Nilson Araujo Andrade

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  44. Daniel

    CHUPA xxxx KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

    Liga não, logo o CÚrintia inaugura outra maquete de estádio, ou começa a fazer outra “caixinha” de arrecadações, pros otários encherem o bolso do A. Sanchez, o comedor de “s”.

  45. Angelo Verticchio

    nao tenho vergonha de colocar meu nome pois sou homem. e te falo meu caro vc e um sem vergonha!!
    Chupa rapaz, chupa!!!

  46. luciano

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